Pence says he looked to James Madison when he certified the 2020 election for Biden

Asked during an event at the University of Iowa that had asked him to reject Trump’s plan, Pence replied, “James Madison.”

The former vice president also quoted the Bible, saying, “Psalm 15 says that he who keeps his oath, even when it hurts.”

He noted that he had written a letter to Congress expressing concern over the vote in some states.

“I continue to share these concerns, and I support efforts in states to improve voter integrity, as has been done in places like Georgia and Arizona and elsewhere,” Pence said, although there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in any state during 2020 elections.

But, he added, “the only role for the federal government is to open and count the electoral votes that were sent by the states. You have to be willing to do your duty.”

The comments add new insight into Pence’s mindset on January 6, when he presided over Congress as it confirmed Biden’s victory. When Pence refused to intervene, Trump turned on his vice president and attacked him on Twitter, even as the uprising at the US Capitol unfolded.

The former vice president had said in June that he and Trump have spoken “many times” since leaving office, but that “I do not know if we will ever see eye to eye” around January 6, when Pence was rushed out of the office. The Senate chamber, while troublemakers, some called for his death, stormed the halls of Congress.

The 2020 election certification was the only clear break Pence made with the former president, which he served loyally for four years – and whose cloak he might want to take up in the presidential race in 2024. That goal is complicated by the open opportunity Trump could field. again himself, and the guilt that Trump’s most loyal supporters attribute to Pence for not overturning the election.

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